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Saturday, May 21, 2011

ANNOUNCING A TOUGH TAKE ON SAM TANENHAUS ["OH TANENBAUM"]

 ‘He is an 18-inch naval gun, with tremendous firepower but always missing the cognitive target.’ ”



Oh Tannenbaum Oh Tannnebaum, adjectevitis to give a person conjunctivitis, and a ghastly producer of verbiage devoid of a single actual thought [please find me a single one!] is the editor in  chief of the ny times book review! Karl Kraus groans in his grave!

Sunday, May 15, 2011

A FIRST BRIEF TAKE ON TOM LUTZ'S L.A. REVIEW OF BOOKS


The L.A. Review of Books is tetchy, they write me that they will never publish a single letter from me, Tom Lutz does, this for the following, specific as compared to the more general, critique of mine:

On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 1:45 PM, mikerol <mikerol@gmail.com> wrote:
http://lareviewofbooks.org/post/5131104949/life-is-short-art-is-shorter

It is apparent from David Shields ramble that there is someone although he teaches writing has no sense of a writers b r e a t h i n g, or rhythm, or of deep syntax, or the rejuvination effected through estrangement, say Handke's ABSENCE which puts you into the state of being experiencing a film, and which has the loudest tank in the world --, or the magicking that can be achieved by making a reader experience the world anew through words... alas, there is someone who will go chasing from one Magruder film after another. No wonder David, as he wrote me several times, is not interested in any of the many things that Handke's work has availed his readers. Or a more materilistic use of language.
 Domage, "sing sorrow"  David is stuck in the whirligig of his brain.

Mike, please ask someone at the Seattle Psychoanalytic Society to explain projection to you, and how it might apply to your last phrase in particular.  We are printing a number of letters to the editor.  We will never, never, never publish one from you, and I am adding you to our spam filter--go harass someone else.  Tom

lareviewofbooks@gmail.com



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 Having read most of what has been published 
so far during its first two months in the on-line
 LA REVIEW OF BOOKS
has published so far I am fairly underwhelmed...
but struck, in particular, by the persistent insularity of this new venture...
as though Mexican literature were not next door
not to speak of the literature of the many
language ghettos that I came to know during
my eight years in that region
FARSI, KOREAN, CHINESE, PASHTUNJAPANESE,
ARABIC, etc. etc.
and by the persistent interest
in suchwell-shelled nuts as Marylin Monroe, the Mitford, Keith Richard, and I could go atconsiderable length... and in having its say on matters that have been raked to death...
and so far I havent come one a single new voice
there...
  


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A Thumb Nail of what was involved in Translating the Handke Plays




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michael roloff to GeorgeIgor
show details May 14 (2 days ago)


  • Elmo Daffington Jr. Your argument implies that simple English
    constructions,
    limited local detail, and the absence of wordplay -- in short that
    which makes for ease of translation -- also makes fiction "great"
    (your term above). A dubious standard. On the other hand,
    Nabokov was able to translate Lolita into Russian.
    2 hours ago · 

  • Thomas McGonigle I have been told the problem with VN's
    Russian version is that he made it into an antique...something
    it is not in English.. The exper ience of ADA is probably what it
    reads like...
    about an hour ago · 

Thomas McGonigle
I am still interested Michael in this question 
of translation so when seeing ...
May 14 (2 days ago) 

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mikerol to Thomas
show details May 14 (2 days ago)
some are straight translations and don't need to be
 more than that since MY FOOT MY TUTOR is a score...
QUODLIBET is me who knows about auditory hallucinaton 
and his FINNEGANS WAKE
RIDE is a straight translation but that the dialogue
 obviously accmodates itself to NY 1970, ditto for DYING
CRYING [not happy with that at all] didn't take enough of
 the QUODLIBET tack there!
PROPHECY is pretty straight but I am willing to be playful when the author is.
i think that's it in one of shorter nutshells! xx m.r
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A few Bulgarians who have read 
THE CORPSE DREAM OF n. PETKOV in Bulgarian say...
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michael roloff to Thomas
show details May 14 (1 day ago)
German is a wonderful language to translate into, it is very adaptable. 
i vaguely recall somene claiming
in the 50s 50? that faulkner reader better in kraut! will look at the guyotat.

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 Tom, here is all of it, with feeling: 

....some are straight translations and don't need to

be more than that e.g. MY FOOT MY TUTOR is a score..

.For PUBLIC INSULT as I now call OFFENDING THE AUDIENCE

[the American fear of abuse - oh pleas abuse me Osama

bin Laden - and its connotations prohibited what would

have been perfect!]
I needed to entirely re-invent the insult chords at

the end and did precisely the same kind of list making,

it turned out, as Handke  
QUODLIBET is me who knows about auditory hallucinaton and his FINNEGANS WAKE
RIDE is a straight translation but that the dialogue

obviously accommodates itself to NY 1970, ditto for

DYING where the stage version is better after working

on it with Carl Weber...
CRYING [not happy with that at all] didn't take enough

of the QUODLIBET tack there! SELF ACCUSATION again see: 
http://www.handketrans.scriptmania.com/index.html
PROPHECY is pretty straight but I am willing to be

playful when the author is.
i think that's it in one short nutshell!
As to WALK ABOUT THE VILLAGES ...occasion to be

grateful that my nutty stepfather, Colonel Richard

Weber, was also a Shakespeare one, riding in a Crosly

[its the one that looks like a Fridge on wheels!
http://tinyurl.com/64fce4f
through the  Prospect Park development in West Orange

with Dick shouting one of he many monologues by heart

and tongue - "to be or not to be" in the most precarious

position and vehicles imaginable - will sure get

Shakespeare into your guts, and if it had not been

for that early absorbtion I might have called

DAS MUENDEL WILL VORMUND SEIN .. "The servant wants

to be the Master" or something equally boring...

instead of MY FOUTRE MY TUTOR. However, although

Handke said it was a better translation than he

could have ever imagined it came a cropper at Michael

diCapua, a little ice-pick-asslicker who had advanced

to editor in chief at Farrar, Straus and who especially

objected to Handke's formulation of sexual heat.
 Part of the long detailed Afterword are on-line at

the Translation site..
  . The Innerworld translations are very straight

and so is Nonsense & Happiness. Innerworld I

then added some later that were only published in

magazines... The New Yorker, Howard Moss was hospitable...

pretty challenging to get some of them as right as I

could at the time...with KASPAR I initially got even

wilder than Handke in mocking rhyme and rhthm and didnt

rein it in until Peter Brook asked me to..
If anyone is interested what the experience of translating the early plays entailed, I have given a detailed account of it at: 
http://www.handketrans.scriptmania.com/index.html


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>MICHAEL ROLOFF
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>

Member Seattle Psychoanalytic Institute and Society
>
This LYNX will LEAP you to my HANDKE project sites and BLOGS
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>
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 "Degustibus disputandum est." Theodor Wiesenthal Adorno
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 "May the foggy dew bediamondize your hoosprings + the fireplug of filiality
reinsure your bunghole! {James  Joyce}
>

"Sryde Lyde Myde Vorworde Vorhorde Vorborde." [von Alvensleben]
>

"Siena me fe, disfescimi Maremma." [Dante]

>
"Ennui [Lange Weile] is the dreambird that hatches the egg of experience."
> Walter Benjamin, the essay on Leskov.
"mais une marée de merde en bat les murs, à la faire crouler." Gustav Flaubert

> http://analytic-comments.blogspot.com/
>
http://summapolitico.blogspot.com/
>

 
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